[sinod] Thanks to all contributors

Luc Saffre luc at saffre-rumma.net
Fri Apr 1 11:22:07 UTC 2022


Dear contributors,

yesterday at 20:21 I submitted the final version (v18.pdf 
<https://hw.saffre-rumma.net/dl/2022/talgud/v18.pdf>) of our report to 
the official sinoditiim 
<https://hw.saffre-rumma.net/sc/talgud/about/#term-sinoditiim>.

The /respons­ible au­thors/ are Luc Saffre, Stiiv Knowers, Ingmar Kurg 
and Annely Neame. And 10 “contributors” agreed to be named: Matthias 
Burghardt, Jür­gen Hein, Toomas Jürgenstein, Kadri Kesküla, Kaimo 
Klement, Aleksander Koppel, Ivo Kruusamägi, Jaan Lahe, Samuel Maikalu 
and William Straus.

Already on Wednesday I had asked the sinoditalgutiim 
<https://hw.saffre-rumma.net/sc/talgud/about/#term-sinoditalgutiim> 
whether they support the report by disclosing their names to the public. 
And yesterday morning at least 20 other friends dropped into my mind who 
actually had /indirectly/ contributed to this document. I invited them 
to read the report as well and whether they would agree to be named 
publicly. Because every human who dares to publish their name increases 
the probability that our report reaches Rome.

Some of them didn’t get my message, some had no time to read a 10 pages 
report, some read it and even found it very interesting, but didn’t feel 
like commenting on it, and some decided to support it by having their 
name published. And these people all “love the Church as she is, despite 
all justified criticism, and want to help her on her synodal journey of 
seeking what is good and true.”

I am especially glad that the list even contains two atheists.

An important job is done! Thanks to all the people named above, but also 
to all those who prefer to remain “incognito”.

This project took me a lot of time and energy, but I also learned a lot. 
Just to give an example of the things we learned together, here is what 
I wrote to Ingmar and Stiiv after the third meeting:

    Enne magamaminekut panen veel kirja; See oli täna ikka ajalooline
    päriselu lugu: Luc ja Ingmar arutlevad sinodirapordi üle. Seal oli
    lause “The Bible isn’t perfect and it says so itself.” Ingmarile see
    ei meeldinud. Lucile aga meeldis. Arutlevad tükk aega. Ingmar
    ähvardas “Kui see lause jääb, siis ma alla ei kirjuta!” Hiljemalt
    selt hetkel oleks Luc ju võinud taibata, et lause läheb minema, see
    pole ju Luci kiri paavstile, vaid eestlaste kiri. Mis ta üldse nii
    pikalt vaidleb. Aga selle asemel klapib ta oma arvuti kinni ja
    tõuseb püsti. Et see nii teatraalselt mõjus, üllatas teda ise. Ta
    tegelikult oli ainult mõelnud, et nüüd on õige hetk väikese pausi
    jaoks. Aga mõjus. Ingmar tõuseb ka ja hakkab oma arvuti pakkima.
    Nüüd sai Luc aru, et võiks hakkata hoog maha võtma. Siis sai ta aru,
    et Ingmar tegelikult ei pannud oma arvuti kokku vaid võttis hoopis
    toitejuhe kotist välja. Tükk aega vaikus. Siis istusid mõlemad maja
    ja talgud läksid edasi. Stiiv istus kogu selle aja jooksul vaikselt
    nagu hiir. Luc võttis nüüd lõpuks oma armastatud lause maha. Pani
    “The Bible needs explanation” selle asamel. Ja hiljem sai aru, et
    see on seal isegi veel ilusam.

I have no idea how much of our work will reach Rome. The sinoditiim 
<https://hw.saffre-rumma.net/sc/talgud/about/#term-sinoditiim> will now 
read all the reports that have been submitted during the consultation 
phase in Estonia <https://sinod.katoliku.ee/en/2/> and then synthesize 
them into a single 10 pages document. This will be fun. But I am not 
worried for the Pope. He will manage without us. Our work has already 
yielded so much spiritual result among those who contributed.

The discernment phase will be fun because already now it is clear that 
our report is not representative for everybody in Estonia. One 
undisclosed contributor explained why he cannot yet support the document:

    Hei. Lugesin ja mõtlesin. Kui ratsionaalselt vaatan, siis on palju
    asju, millega tulen kaasa.

    Küll oli mul raske võtta omaks “Suggestion: Step 4 - political role”
    punkte. Praegusel kujul on need mulle liiga ühepoolsed. Raha ja
    tööstus võivad olla ka inimese sõbrad ja teha maailmale palju head.
    Erasektor ei ole alati paha ja riik ei ole alati hea. Tihti on
    vastupidi.

    Samuti mulle näib, et Eesti inimene on küll ratsionaalne ja
    põhjamaine. Aga ta vajab väga suuresti ka “müsteeriumit”, mis on
    meie usu kese. Meie usu kese on Kristus ehk euharistia - paradoks,
    mis on mõistusega seletamatu. Seda saab ainult uskuda ja ise usus
    kogeda.

    Me peame rääkima kiriku õpetusest lihtsas keeles. Aga me ei tohi
    kaotada oma müsteeriumit, oma salapära, sest selles avaldub
    tegelikult tõde.

Another undisclosed contributor answered with a comic of two pictures:

  *

    Christian rebellion in 1990: Son with sunglasses to dad with tie:
    No, Dad! I’m going to the cool church where they play electric
    guitar and wear shorts! Btw I’m getting rebaptized.

  *

    Christian rebellion today: Son with tie to dad with sunglasses: No,
    Dad. I’m returning our bloodline to the faith traditions that were
    observed and cherished by our ancestors – traditions your once
    abandoned in the fruitless endeavour to make the Gospel palatable to
    the unspiritual masses. Btw TobyMac is cringe.

The work job of the sinoditalgutiim 
<https://hw.saffre-rumma.net/sc/talgud/about/#term-sinoditalgutiim> is 
done, but as you can see, there is more work to do. We are not yet 
there. Pray for us!

Luc

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